How do you explain a challenging subject like purgatory to children? In this episode Jason Nunez talks with Susan Tassone, “The Purgatory Lady” about her new children’s book, New Friends Now and Forever: A Story about the Holy Souls.
Susan explains how the book helps children understand and love the holy souls in purgatory, who are our friends and intercessors. She also gives us some tips and resources on how to pray for them and foster a devotion to them.
On today’s journey, you will hear answers to questions like,
- How do you teach a difficult doctrine like purgatory to children?
- What are the benefits of praying for the holy souls in purgatory?
- How does praying for the holy souls help kids grow in virtue and have hope?
Guest Information

Bob Sawyer is a retired Moravian minister and a resident of Winston-Salem, North Carolina. He served as a pastor in New York, Philadelphia, Maryland, and Winston-Salem, followed by eleven years as a church administrator. His first trip to the Holy Land was in 1988 during the first Intifada and he has returned leading pilgrimages and representing both the Moravian Church and Pilgrims of Ibillin. He was Executive Director of Pilgrims of Ibillin from 2007 to 2013 and accompanied Abuna Elias Chacour on his trips to the U.S. during that time. He is currently on the Board of Directors.
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Recommended Reading:
Day By Day for the Holy Souls in Purgatory, by Susan Tassone
Prayers, Promises, and Devotions for the Holy Souls in Purgatory, by Susan Tassone